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#008 Empowering Young Minds: Trusting the Inner Voice - Tools for Parents and Teachers

• Livia Lowder • Season 1 • Episode 8

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Join us for an enlightening conversation with the multi-award-winning children's book author Renée Green Murphy as she takes us on a journey through the profound connection between intuition and emotional intelligence in education. Discover how Renée’s book, "Your Heart's Voice," is not just a tool but a treasure trove of spiritual and subliminal messages aimed at helping children understand and trust their inner voice. Through personal anecdotes and stories inspired by her late brother, Renée reveals the incredible inspiration behind her work and shares practical tips to nurture intuition in young minds.

In our engaging discussion, Renée elaborates on how "Your Heart's Voice" can be seamlessly integrated into educational settings to enhance social-emotional learning and boost academic performance. From visual aids for younger children to reflective journaling exercises for older students, the book offers a versatile approach to fostering self-awareness and emotional intelligence. Learn how Renée’s thoughtful methods can help educators create a supportive and enriching classroom environment that promotes self-control, conflict resolution, and independent decision-making.

Finally, we delve into the importance of finding personal calm amidst life's chaos. Renée opens up about her own experiences, from dealing with loss to finding solace in creative expression, highlighting how these journeys have shaped her mission to teach children about emotional resilience. Whether through yoga, a walk on the beach, or simply taking a moment to be still, discover practical strategies for cultivating inner peace and how these practices can transform not just individual lives but entire communities. Tune in for an episode rich in emotional insight and practical wisdom.

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Livia:

Welcome to the Emotions Untapped podcast. I'm your host, livia Lauder. This is the show where we explore the power of emotional intelligence in our personal and professional lives In this community. We dive into conversations with experts and thought leaders from a variety of fields to gain insights, strategies and tools for cultivating emotional intelligence or EQ for short. It gives me so much joy to create this show for you, to bring value and resources to you on your journey. I love your support in helping us create an even bigger impact. Just leave a five-star review and share this episode with a friend so we can continue to help others improve their lives by improving their emotional health. Now hit that subscribe button and let's dive in. The star of the show this week is Renee Green Murphy.

Renee:

Everything we do, we have to make a choice and it's so important to be able to tap into your intuition to guide you to make the right choice. Again, it starts with calming our mind and asking our intuition the right thing to do. It's there to guide us. So what might be right for you isn't necessarily right for me, but it's always going to be right for us in our lives. It's never going to harm anyone else. It's never going to be a negative effect. It may be the choice that's a little bit more work. It may be the choice that isn't going to come easier, but in the long run, once we trust our intuition, we know that we're making the right choice.

Livia:

Renee is a multi-award winning children's book, author of a picture book on intuition called your Heart's Voice. She has a master's in school counseling and leadership and has taken her 10 years of professional experience in the education system in the New York City area to bring an extremely unique tool to the classroom and local schools. Her book uses a variety of intertwined messages to help boost emotional intelligence by tapping into your intuition and becoming intuitively aware. It also helps improve self-esteem and independence, while helping to improve emotional and academic performance. Renee's mission is for her book to become part of all classroom social-emotional curriculums to enhance not only the child's skills but also the ability for educators to teach these concepts to students in a fun and interactive way. Renee, thank you so much for meeting with me today. I'm really looking forward to this conversation.

Renee:

Thank you for having me Of course.

Livia:

So your book. It's. You know, it's really visually appealing, but it's so much more than that. There's so much depth to it. It really is filled with lots of woven, intertwined messages related to spirit. So I'd love for you to expand a little bit more on what these messages are and why you felt it was important to include these messages in your book.

Renee:

So I have Jade, who is the main character of your Heart's Voice. Her name means the jewel of heaven and the stone of the heart Jade is. It's also a stone. It's a light green stone, so I named her that after my brother's passing. As you said, there's lots of spiritual, subliminal messages tied into the book because that way I can memorialize him that much more was at the beach. It's also where I meditate and where I find most connected to my brother and my own intuition.

Renee:

Cardinal is on the cover because that symbolizes spirit. There's seagulls on the cover, which aren't necessarily spirit per se, but they remind me of my brother because we would go to the beach and he'd be eating snacks and the seagulls would come down and literally take the snacks out of his hand and we'd all crack up. So we have funny memories of that happening at the beach in Miami where he used to live part-time. We have a turtle that I put on the cover because after my brother's passing I was on my way to the beach with my son and a turtle was crossing the street and we rescued the turtle. My son named every animal Charlie, which also happens to be my dad's brother, who died in Vietnam, oddly enough. And so there's a subliminal message there, spiritually intertwined, and we saved him and brought him to my dad's house. So that reminds us of Robert.

Renee:

But after looking at what turtles symbolize, the spiritual meaning behind them is keep moving forward. No matter how hard life becomes and how heavy it becomes, especially with grief, you have to move forward, and so I added the turtle. There's also blue jay, which also spiritual, and we always see them at my mom's. For some reason, we see a lot of cardinals at my house, but we always see blue jays at my parents' house, and the heart is an indigo, the color indigo, which is also your sixth chakra, which is your third eye, which is the color indigo.

Livia:

Perfect. And then her age was significant as well too, wasn't it?

Renee:

She's 11, which is an angel number, and whenever you see 111 or 1111, it means your angel, your guardian angel, is with you at that time.

Livia:

I mean just hearing you share that. You can already tell that there's been so much love poured into this book. Now the big focus of the story is on intuition and, as we discussed in our earlier conversation, intuition itself is a hard concept to explain to a child, for example, a six-year-old year old. So I'd love for you to share some of the ways I mean relative to the book, but then also in your own experience as a parent. What are some ways that you teach intuition in real life to your own children?

Renee:

So you start with or I start with, using the same language. I very consistent and cognizant of the language that I use. So first we start out with recognizing what your intuition is and that's why I created the visual your heart's voice. So I tell my children always tap into your heart's voice. What is the whisper telling you to do so? If they are having to make an important decision or even a small decision that they just can't make? We start by calming our mind, by getting grounded, whether that's physically going outside and grounding yourself on the grass or sitting in a quiet space. Once you're able to do that, take 10 inhales through your nose, out through your nose. You'll see there's an immediate relaxation. So neurologically it's calming your brain and it's kind of clearing out the noise. You need to do that in order to tap into your intuition. So I teach them that's the first step. And then, whether you need to just ask yourself the question at hand or write it down some children find it helpful to carry a journal. I have one for my kids or they can just ask the question and the whisper is there.

Renee:

There's always going to be a whisper or there's always going to be a message on the right thing to do. Your intuition's never necessarily going to tell you the wrong thing to do. It may alert you. You may hear the whisper telling you, no, that's the wrong choice. Or you get into the car, put your seatbelt on. It's always going to tell you the right thing to do to prevent danger, to prevent a problem, to prevent you veering off of life's path in your life's purpose.

Renee:

Really, I always tell my kids fear is an unnatural feeling in terms of it's, I believe, god's way of telling us that we're making the wrong choice. So often we don't listen to that whisper. And then something small as not studying for a test which could result in a failing grade which isn't necessarily a small result can then just, you know, when we get into that habit, it can create more and more negative decision-making skills. When, really, if we take that minute to calm our mind, listen to what our heart's voice tells us to do, it might be a little bit more effort, but if we form those positive, healthy habits of tuning into our intuition, they go a long way.

Livia:

And yeah, I love that. So really just practicing presence dropping in in the moment, mindfulness practices there, like the breath work and a little bit of like a meditation kind of dropping in and I soft and it's subtle and it really is like a whisper, so I think that's great, that's fantastic don't necessarily trust it, like any relationship in life or anything that's new.

Renee:

So I like to tell them that see that there's a cause and effect. So, whether you're journaling or not, always remember what did I do the last time when I had a problem or I need to make an important choice. When you listen to your intuition, how did you feel? And then, when you're able to create that distinction that when I listen I feel good and when I listen I make the right choice, it helps my life, makes me feel good, it boosts self-esteem, it boosts independent thinking, it boosts emotional intelligence those are all positive ways to feel. Then they trust it more. Like a muscle I always use the visual like going to the gym and working out. When you focus on one muscle, like your bicep, for instance, you keep working it out, it's going to get stronger and stronger. Same goes for the gift of intuition.

Livia:

Awesome. So decision-making as well is a huge focus in the story itself and in our prior conversation as well. We did discuss about how there isn't a whole lot of support in schools regarding developing decision making skills. There's no, you know, direct curriculum, so to speak. I mean, these things might come up in the classroom setting, but there isn't like a focus on it necessarily on how parents can support their children to become better decision makers at home and teachers at school, because obviously you have, you know, experienced your career in the school system as well.

Renee:

Our children are are our precious gifts and it's our job as parents and as teachers to create lifelong learners. So, whether it's that year that we have the student, or as a parent forever, and I really believe that the skill of decision-making and problem-solving, tuning into that and creating a positive awareness with it and strengthening that skill, is going to help guide you throughout life. So, whether it's something as small as from a young age, cleaning up your toys because you want to have a clean space in your room, you want to be able to know where everything is just like in the classroom, or, as we get older, putting our seat belt on before we drive the car, you know decision-making with making positive relationships, with friendships and our peers. As we enter elementary school and middle school and beyond, we're always going to have to be faced with making positive choices. Our career is going to be an influential choice in our life, but maybe forever. And so everything we do, we have to make a choice and it's so important to be able to tap into your intuition to guide you to make the right choice. Again, it starts with calming our mind and asking our intuition the right thing to do. It's there to guide us what might be right for you isn't necessarily right for me, but it's always going to be right for us in our lives. It's never going to harm anyone else. It's never going to be a negative effect. It may be the choice that's a little bit more work. It may be the choice that isn't going to come easier, but in the long run, once we trust our intuition, we know that we're making the right choice.

Renee:

So in school, kids are making decisions all day long. They need to take out their math work and now it's quiet time. They need to choose the right book. They need to find a partner. They need to at recess. They need to play safely. They need to choose a safe, you know activity at recess, whatever the choice is. So if you are having to make these independent choices without asking the teacher, right, as you get older, you're having to make them more and more and you're faced now with a problem you don't know what to do.

Renee:

My book can come in handy by reminding children. You pull out your heart's voice journal, you reread the book. You're now redirected and now you're reviewing the words, sight words, in the story. You're reviewing the words in the story that remind you of what your intuition is and you're reminding yourself. Okay, if I take a deep breath and now I write down what the problem is, what decision I need to make, and then I tune into what my heart's voice is telling me to do, did I make the right choice? And now, how do I feel? This is independent work that could go on in the classroom and then the teacher. It's now relieving them from having to problem solve, having to send the student out for contract resolution with the counselor, and then she can revisit the journal at the end of the week. She can get a also results in academic performance improving in the classroom, social and emotional intelligence improving in the classroom. It really is a win-win for all.

Livia:

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Livia:

Let us know what your biggest takeaway is from today's show. All right, let's get back to it. Perfect, okay. So that's the great segue to my next question.

Livia:

Actually, because this is a lot more than just a children's book. It's a lot more than just an illustration. There are these intertwined messages and these lessons and this focus of you know becoming a stronger overall human being through decision making, through following a heart's voice, through you know letting your intuition guide you. So so far, you're in three schools and 11 libraries. The audio book is available as well, which I think is awesome. So for kids who can't read right younger children, they can still follow along and start to embrace these concepts, a little bit of like a podcast style learning, which is really cool. So your big goal which I'm so fond of, like this is so fantastic. I love this so much. It's, you know, to integrate this book into classrooms and into curriculums. So for educators listening right now, I mean, you just touched on it briefly, but can you share a little bit more about how the story inside the book actually does align with social, emotional learning and how it can actually improve academic performance?

Renee:

So there's many life skills that are learned throughout the story, whether it's boosting self-esteem, problem solving, decision making, self-awareness, intuitive awareness, emotional intelligence. These are things that students don't necessarily learn per se. They're learning it throughout the school day, sometimes indirectly, throughout their relationships, but it's not something that is overtly taught unless there is a curriculum around it. So nowadays, many schools do have social emotional learning within the classroom, especially in New York, and my book can be a tool that can assist teachers in the classroom, differentiated based on the class and the age of the students and, as I said, they can read it as a group setting. They can use the audible as a group setting to introduce it into the classroom for the little kids. They are going to need those visuals, they're going to need the audible. They could put it up on a projector so the kids can see the beautiful visuals and then grab some of the sight words out to integrate learning for reiteration of sight words that they would be learning at that age For the upper grades. They would then talk about self-esteem and these concepts, these skills that children need to learn. They are also going to integrate a journal for the older kids. We can also improve their writing skills. So there's lots of ways that they can take my book and they can have the student reread it independently, which is also boosting their own reading skills, but also in a group setting they can pair off. Then they have the journal. They're writing down the problem that arises and again they're writing down which decision they made, which based on the problem that they had, whether it was, you know, who is their partner at recess, or you know, maybe some, maybe it's after the fact, maybe Brendan was teasing Molly because she has glasses, and Brendan is now asked to go read my story to write in his journal and think about what he could have done differently. So it can be used as a preventative and also as a reactionary tool based on conflict resolution. So now he needs to write down what he did and now he's going to write down how that made him feel.

Renee:

So often, whether it is before the problem occurs or after, children don't connect feeling to their decisions. They're just lying by the seat of their pants, right. They're just their children, they're just reacting, and so often they don't sit and think about how it made them feel or someone else feel. So now they're writing down after you teased her, how did that make you feel. We see how it made her feel. She's crying, she's upset. How did it make you feel? And it can create that awareness within themselves that well, actually I feel bad that I said that.

Renee:

And now they're getting down to a little bit on a deeper level that they wouldn't normally address, perhaps out in the hallway. They certainly would in a counseling session, but we don't always have time for that, right? So now they're writing down how it made them feel. And now they're establishing that when I make the wrong choice, not only do I hurt others, but I hurt myself. I don't want to feel like this, right. I want Molly to be my friend. I want friends. I want to feel good when children are able to see the cause and effect, that their decisions actually have an effect. And when it's a good effect, we're going to make better decisions. When it's a bad effect, we're going to make those less.

Livia:

Yeah, so definitely, there's so much there that really goes to show like this is more than just like a story to read at story time and we all sit around the mat and listen. This is like something that can be studied. I can. I'm literally seeing in my mind, you know, focusing on this book in the classroom and having like weeks of lessons around it, and there's so many jumping off points here, like you said, with all of these different elements of social emotional learning, like the emotional intelligence, self esteem, like all. There's all these different things which'm wondering was this always the intention? When you started writing the book, did you have kind of this big picture of what it would be like in the end and you wrote it to that? Or did the idea just come to you and it all just kind of flowed and this ended up being the end result, regardless of your intention in the beginning? I'm curious.

Renee:

I think I did, but I don't think I realized it at the time. I've always relied on my intuition. I've always known that it's a huge skill to be able to grasp and use throughout life, and I was aware that many people didn't necessarily tune into it, whether you're a child and you think it's the boogeyman and you're not quite sure you're second guessing yourself, or whether it's an adult who just kind of lost, you know, veered off the track, so to speak, and kind of lost their way and life took over and they kind of just muted out that whisper. But I realized when there were no children's books on the concept and this is something that I relied on throughout life that there was a need.

Renee:

I wanted to simplify the story so that anybody reading it could understand it, whether it was a five-year-old or 50-year-old. So it is written simplistically but, as you touched on, it's also complex in its messaging and there's a lot of meaning behind it. Once we use our intuition in life, our conscience, our God-given gift, our intuition, our conscience, our intuition, our conscience, our intuition, our, our gut feeling, our instincts, once we do that and we grow that skill to be stronger and stronger, it's only to make our life easier. The goal is to fulfill ourselves, but while we're doing that and we're happier people, we're spreading love, and we're spreading it's contagious right, and so we need more of that in life and we need less of the negativity.

Livia:

Awesome, yeah. And so for the people who, just, you know, totally relate to what you just said, like perhaps, you know, they've disconnected from their own intuition, they kind of got lost along their way. They're kind of hearing you say that and going oh my gosh, that's me, how did I even get to this point? You know, perhaps they used to be a lot more in tune, or perhaps they never were, or perhaps they never were and they're just realizing it now for the first time that there's this element that they're so disconnected to. What are some of the ways that you for yourself, as an adult, you know, began that journey and really started kind of hearing your own voice and tapping into your own intuition? Did you have any kind of practices for that? Or what are kind of some of the things that you developed along your journey and skills that you acquired, things that you developed?

Renee:

along your journey and skills that you acquired, I think, when I was really little, and it really was a voice. It was a voice in my heart. That's it's. I'm not exaggerating, that's what it was. I learned that by listening to it and I, I made the right choice. I just trusted it. Um, I, I, I remember being like six or seven, um, you know, playing basketball in the front yard and my parents calling me to come in, and you know, you want to, just you want to play a little longer.

Renee:

You want to, you want to get that shot in, right, you're, you're, you're playing with your friend. You don't want it to stop, but your parents are calling you and so I would just stop. And in my mind, you know, I'd listen to the heart, my heart's voice, and go and eat dinner and and play again when I was done, or, you know, and and and seeing the reaction on my parents' face of that, I listened and feeling good about myself that I was able to have self control. Um, those things went on, they went. It's they, they, they were driving me to want to do it more. Um, it also developed a sense of not only honesty in me, but um a faith of trusting myself, which I think many people um they lose their way with that as well. So I would rely on my intuition to make little, medium and big choices, and I trusted it more and more as I got older.

Renee:

As you get older, though, it becomes harder, because we have life stressors in the way. Society and being an adult just comes with that right. We have money stressors and relationship stressors. Or we're a mom or a dad, or our career choices stressors, or we're a mom or a dad, or our career choices. Social media does not help with that, and so it's very easy to get sucked into the negativity and to lose your way and to lose your own voice. But I choose to find my calm, and I tell that to my kids.

Renee:

Find your calm. It may be different for you than it is for me. Some people it's yoga. For me it's going to the beach and sitting in silence or just blocking out the noise around me. Some people it's driving around listening to the radio. Some people it's working out. Some people it's resting. Find your calm, and once you're able to do that, you're taking control of your life in a very, very big way. It sounds small, but it actually is very profound because it's going to prevent an emotional reaction that you may regret. It's going to help the stress and manage your mental health. So that first step of finding your calm, whether you're a child or an adult, is huge an adult is huge, great.

Livia:

I love that. I think stillness is so underrated, especially in today's day and age, right, when everything's so instant, like we have social media, and there's all this instant gratification and there's all this just everything's moving so fast and I think that's a really important thing to remember is just, you know there's so much power in just slowing down and being still and finding your calm, like you said. That's such a great and powerful tool. Thank you for that. So this book I'd love to bring this to the conversation Now. You touched on it a little bit already, but this book is dedicated to your brother and it was very therapeutic for you to write the book. Um. It acted as a bit of a healer for grief after your brother passed away. Um now he shared with me in our prior interview was very intuitive. He was a very self-confident individual. Curious how you wrote him into the book, as you know, kind of to honor his spirit and what that experience was like for you.

Renee:

So he passed away tragically in a car accident in 2022. I wasn't writing immediately. I was praying, I was meditating, I was trying to connect to him. I was at the beach immediately after talking to him, looking for signs, validating the signs I was receiving. It was about six months later that I remembered that I had this manuscript tucked away and my intuition told me to pull it back out and begin writing again. I had started the story in 2017, 2018, after my second child was born, because I wanted to always write a children's book, another way that I listened to my intuition, my heart's voice, and so, after Robert, about six months later, I found myself back at the beach and I dedicated it to him.

Renee:

But then I wanted to intertwine his character into the story. I wanted his character to have a stronger message, and so Jade learns three life lessons throughout the story. I wanted his character to have a stronger message, and so Jade learns three life lessons throughout the story. As I said, very simple ones cleaning up your toys before you leave the room, eating your vegetables and always asking and putting things away that aren't yours. And by the end, she drew an angel for her uncle. She drew it in pen, which my brother was also an artist among many other talents. I remember him distinctly saying that you're not really an artist if you can't draw in pen.

Renee:

He drew a picture of I think he was a mixologist at the bar and a customer he said asked me to draw anything. And the guy asked him to draw, like Bugs Bunny, something so random. And Robert drew it on a cocktail napkin in pen, took a picture of it and posted it to his Instagram and that's when he sent that message and so I remember that. So I had Jade draw the angel in pen and it was for her uncle, robert. So by the end of the story her heart's voice had told her to do this and she handed it to him and she said this is for you. My heart's voice told me you would love it. And he laughed and said your heart's voice, you mean your intuition. That's something we all have to help guide us throughout life to make good choices. Thank you, my beautiful niece, jade. And so the story does like a 180. It comes full circle in the end.

Livia:

That's really beautiful and it's, yeah, such a nice way to honor him and honor his life. And, you know, his message essentially lives on in this story and now in schools and libraries, you know, in the New York area. That's, it's just, it's so cool. I love how, you know, sometimes really low points in our life can actually lead to, you know, things that are so impactful to things and people outside of our immediate environment. I mean the loss of, you know, a brother, the loss of a family member, the loss of a community member is always hard on an individual and a community as well. Our prior conversation, you know, your brother had a huge impact in his community and the people around him, based on his spirit and the kind of person he was. So, in a way, you know, you've continued that legacy of who he was in this story and through all the people that get to receive the message in the story, which is just incredible.

Renee:

I truly believe that the people who knew him, who loved him, when they read my book, it's a nice way that they can connect to him as well. I have my ways, my family, we all have our ways, but it's a little token for me to be able to share him with the world, the people who didn't know him now they have the gift of getting a little piece of him, but the people who knew him, who miss him dearly I still receive messages. I still run into people. It's also their way of being able to have a piece of him with them in their home and they can be reminded of how much they loved him, because these are messages that we still receive to this day.

Renee:

He really was a bright light. He really was something special. I know he listened to his intuition because he was so happy and there's a direct relationship between making good choices and boosting self-esteem. There's a direct relationship between high self-esteem and feeling happy, and so he was definitely on his divine path. We had lots of conversations about that the meaning of life and his purpose, and I truly believe he fulfilled that. It doesn't necessarily make his departure any easier, but I do feel, like Billy Joel said, only the good die young and he was taken from us. I believe he fulfilled something and he touched so many lives, and now all of those people that he touched can learn a little bit on how to live their life to the fullest, based on how Robert lived his.

Livia:

Absolutely Such an inspirational story. So coming up next we talked about, you are creating a journal to go along with the book. Is that correct?

Renee:

Yeah, I truly feel that, especially in the educational setting, if a child has that visual, not only does it help with problem solving to be able to see it, so writing down the problem, but comprehension. So again, it can help the student as they're writing down the problem that they need to face. It can help them with their comprehension skills, but it can also help them to be able to reflect and so as a journal, it's something they can look back upon and see growth. They can see the cause and effect. I just think it would be more effective. It's something that not only is for the school setting, you can have it at home. But to be able to kind of keep track of the decisions that you're making and seeing that there's a cause and effect, I think is vital to understanding the concept of intuition and strengthening the skill.

Livia:

Incredible. So the big mission here is to get it in schools. You are able to ship it in bulk as well, if need be. So for all of the educators and teachers and anyone who knows educators and teachers in their life who they would love to recommend this book to, how can they get in touch with you? How can they order the book? How can they get it in their classrooms?

Renee:

I know that you are in Canada and I'm in New York, and I love that. My book speaks on intuition, which is something that we all have, no matter where we live in the world. So whether you are a little girl in Canada or a teenage boy in LA, whether you are an older person in Asia or over here in New York, it is our gift to help us to make better choices in life and live a better life. I love that there's no discrimination attached to my book. It can really benefit any age can really benefit any age anybody. You can buy it on my website, reneegreenmurphycom, and I can ship it to you through my distributor, ingramspark. It's also available on Amazon.

Livia:

Barnes Noble Target.

Renee:

Okay, excellent, and do you have a projected release for the journal that you're working on? That is something that I'm doing now. That should be done in the next couple months, by the end of the summer, by the next school year. But if anybody isn't interested, you know, shoot me an email, or, when you're placing the order, you can leave me a message and I can try to expedite that for you.

Livia:

Amazing. Well, thank you so much for sharing all about this. I know that I'm going to be sharing this episode with all the educators. In my life I have a lot of friends and family members who are teachers and work in the education system, and I encourage you, the listener, to also share this with educators, teachers, anyone that's working or spends time around children to not only listen to this episode but to check out the book and get it for yourself, because I feel like this is a really important tool, and there it is, your heart's voice. It's so beautiful. I love the colors and the design of it all. It's very attractive to look at for me, for an adult, so I can only imagine, you know, kids are gonna love it as well. Thank you so much, renee, for coming on the show, and I really appreciate you being here and I'd love to have you back again inside the community and we can perhaps bring you on with some of the members and do a little bit of a Q&A as well, thank you, I look forward to it.

Livia:

That's a wrap on today's episode. I am beyond grateful for your participation in today's conversation. I hope you enjoyed today's guest on the Emotions Untapped podcast. My intention is that the information shared here today has inspired you to deepen your understanding of emotional intelligence and how it can benefit your life. If you have any questions about today's episode, you can DM us on Instagram at emotionsuntapped, and check the show notes for any and all resources mentioned in today's show. You can also reach out to today's guest through the links provided. I'm Livia Lauder. See you next time on Emotions Untapped.